Does ancestry.com check any of the info in their "public trees" for accuracy?
Topic: Method meaning in a research report
June 17, 2019 / By Briscoe Question:
Is there any research on error rate in public trees and records? I sometimes see info I know to be wrong repeated in many family trees. Many trees saying the same thing doesn't make it accurate. Does ancestry.com have any check on this?
Best Answers: Does ancestry.com check any of the info in their "public trees" for accuracy?
Aiah | 4 days ago
No, Ancestry.com does not check for accuracy in public or private trees and no, there is no research on the error rate on the error rate in Ancestry.com public trees and records. Either one would be extremely labor intensive and therefore expensive.
Ancestry.com is well aware of this problem and if you were to try and report an error they would advise you that the problem would have to be worked out between you and the other subscriber.
Sadly, their advertising makes things worse because people who are new to genealogy subscribe to the service and start copying trees without any regard for their accuracy until they become a little more experienced and realize that some of the relationships in those trees in many cases are not even possible, like a person being the wife and child of the same man or a woman having chlldren before or way after her childbearing years.
One particular thing they do which is particularly confusing for new users is when you review hints from another members tree they show, for example:
In the preceding example, the ‘sources’ are actually other members trees and there are not records or it will show a notation something like, http:trees.ancestry.com/pt/…164128979, the records are actual records like US Census records or some other actual records and the photos are self explanatory. When people see those ‘sources’ they thing they are additional records and all it means is that at minimum 6 user trees have copied this information to their tree…probably without checking it for accuracy.
That is all I can add to what the others have posted other than take free classes, read newsletters and ask questions to learn the methods of genealogy. These step-by-step videos are a great place to start: https://www.familysearch.org/learn/getti... and there are many more under the Learn tab at the top of the page…on many different aspects of genealogy.
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That would be impossible. It's not a "Trust but verify" issue. It's a "mistrust and disprove" issue.
Trees are only useful to give you possible clues of where to look for real documents. It helps if the trees have excellent source citations, but most do not.
As for original source documents: These can't be trusted, either. Even the pros don't trust these.
Genealogy deals a lot with philosophical questions like "What is Truth?" and "What is Reality?" and "How can we know anything for certain?" Generally, it just gets down to a huge amount of really sweaty detective work and exhausting research. Learn the methodology; the data is actually often a trap.
Think of public trees as a tip about a crime that was phoned in to your police department from an unknown drug addict. It's just a questionable lead.
Genealogy is a fun addiction, it probably won't kill you, and it will keep you from destroying your mind with too much daytime TV. Have a blast.
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No; neither ancestry.com nor any of the others that have "public trees"/"user submitted trees" check any of the info. That would be nice, but of course, that would take time and money and raise the fees they already charge.
Then again, there is the problem that, really now, there are no accurate records now-a-days, let alone 2 - 3 centuries or longer ago.
Plus no one was around to take DNA samples of every baby born (not even now) to see if the father that is listed is the actual father. Take, for one famous example, the famous frontiersman Daniel Boone: his first born was not his child, but that of his brother. While Daniel was out cavorting with a Chief's daughter having Indian babies, his wife was lonely and got pregnant by his brother! Of course, at the time she had no way of knowing whether or not Daniel would ever come back...
My maternal Grandmother has birth and marriage certificates...with the incorrect surname. Her tombstone bears the middle initial of this erroneous family.
Census records for my Dad, my Mom, and older siblings have incorrect info, both State & Federal censuses.
Back to "public trees" one of them has one of my ancestors born in New York...in the 1580s! It further lists a bunch of siblings for my ancestors that could not possibly have been. On a brighter note, however, most of the info re ancestors proved to be correct. Usually when I see a glaring error, I ignore all the info; sometimes, however, I check other trees/sources to see what is correct.
Lots of people on here think that living persons are not listed on ancestry.com. Wrong! I am, all by siblings, parents, aunts, uncles, cousins. I protested repeatedly..to no avail. Two of my brothers are misnamed; one uncle, who died 10 days before I was born, is listed as dying in the 1980s!
I find the most info from those trees; the trick is trying to "prove" those trees.
So, think of them as being "clues", or "hints": make a quick copy and try to "prove" the trees.
Whatever the source, try to find at least 3 sources; be sure to copy/write down the source. Oft times the source is some historical records.
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No they absolutely don't. In fact, the way the "hints" are set up encourages inaccurate information. They sort of average all the trees if you don't choose only the trees you want to copy. Unfortunately they have probably done more to encourage junk genealogy than any other single company. The only one worse, IMHO, is Geni where other people can make changes to your tree based on their own wrong information.
Ancestry has admitted that their business plan is to encourage the newbie at the expense of the experienced genealogist. Unfortunately it is also to acquire as much genealogy data as possible without bothering to make it easily searchable. A rush to the bottom. Very sad.
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Ancestry.com or no other website checks for accuracy on public trees and you see many are wrong as people copy and paste others work then upload as a quick way of building a tree as they think quantity is more important than quality.........so never trust any online tree, like you I have seen many of 'my' family on online trees and not one of them are correct, at first i would contact them and offer copies of the real records to prove to them and never get an answer as many defend 'their' collections of unrelated names on the basis that 12 trees all say the same thing...at the moment I am trying to help several people in the US who's 'online trees' are wrong, not only wrong dates for births/baptisms but wrong people in their tree as they have trusted each other without looking at records and used ancestry.com hints from their ;'harvested information' collected each time anyone puts anything on their website...they trust a newspaper obituary and a gravestone transcription of birth and baptism date ( secondary information at best) over a baptism record from the church so think their ancestor was born 4 years prior to when he was and was 4 years old when baptised, even though in the record it states he was 6 days old when baptised and another child in the family was born within 5 months of the date they have for him, they have the wrong mother so her family are all wrong, even though I have a copy of the marriage banns and marriage record of the real parents and their 'mother' came from another county..............so you can't help some people regardless of records as they are so used to trusting online hints of a computer programme, trusting others information and are prepared to go with the majority regardless of how they got the information and trust secondary information over primary records.
The sad thing is I have been contacted by 'someone' else in the UK researching this family and have shared with him as he too had the same information.........only to now find the group in the US are paying this person to do research for them, it is he who has given/sold them this wrong information in the first place and is sitting on ancestry.com and familysearch, so not doing 'research' at all, which is like many who offer FH research for a fee they have never been inside a records office and are taking money from people under false presences and using collected/donated/website information rather than real research work with cited record reference....so they have a collection of unrelated names an because they paid for it they trust it..sad!
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